[reynerhl]

Hi All, 

This is something that has made me head for a long time.

If I share with other 1000 users the same IP address in a shared webhosting, and some of them have bad practices that mark our common IP with a low page rank, I am affected, too, isn't it?

So, is there a solution for this or we only can hope that our services manager discover those user and get rid of them?

[GigaGreg]

Apparently yes, but not as bad as you might think, just because you get slower indexing, doesn't mean that it is bad.

[mclaren11]

No. Shared webhosting will not provide any bad effect your SEO. But if you done Unethical SEO that will be bad for you. But shared webhosting take so much time for indexing.

[xdude]

It's little complicated. Shared hosting uses 2 ips for their DNS and sometimes even 1. Premium level shared hosting providers use several sets of ip addresses. Now among 100's of websites if Google finds one or 2 bad sites it won't effect rest of the sites. Google do know about shared hosting too so they dont go black list ips for just one or 2 randoms cases. But they might do that if they find lots of spam type inter linked sites in it. Which might look like whole server is a spam site farm. But this rarely can happen because spammers are more smarter than average webmasters. At least in most cases.

But it would be unfortunate if the ip is one Google has already blacklisted. There are ip ranges like that.This can effect your websites as well as emails. Only once I have experience this. There was this VPS provider who offered dirty cheap servers. They ask you a small annual fee or even used to offer tiny one time fee. So this was spammer heaven. Too many spammers in same place is kind of asking for trouble. It was very rare, once in blue moon situation.

[Genesis]

But it would be unfortunate if the ip is one Google has already blacklisted. There are ip ranges like that.This can effect your websites as well as emails. Only once I have experience this. There was this VPS provider who offered dirty cheap servers. They ask you a small annual fee or even used to offer tiny one time fee. So this was spammer heaven. Too many spammers in same place is kind of asking for trouble. It was very rare, once in blue moon situation.

This is one of the reasons why the owner is so strict about VPS abuse. He is very protective of the Gigarocket iPs. There is no compromise as far as abuse is concerned. Once abuse has been discovered with the use of the VPS, there is no second chance. Gigarocket has a very experienced as well as sharp tech administrator who through the years of hands on experience has built filters with which abuse is picked up on very fast. Usually the VPS is first suspended, and questions asked afterwards.

[xdude]

Yes specially when email blacklist is a really pain. There is no central place so you have to submit requests for various blacklists asking to remove the IP. Some take ages even to consider and some lists don't bother at all. usually the client has to do it unless its a premium hosting provider.

I like when the hosting provider runs tight ship with strict rules, as long as not paranoid. That means less headaches for everyone. :)

[DJB]

Let me try and clear this one up for you all. I work in digital maketing so have some authority in answering this question for you.

Think about how most websites are hosted online globally? They are hosted by web hosting providers. Dedicated resources such as VPS and Dedicated Servers with unique IPs are out of reach for most website owners due to their price points. Simply their attractiveness cannot compete with the price points that shared hosting can provide.

Lets put a ratio and rationale behind this! Lets theorise that 10% of all global websites have dedicated resources and a unique IP. The other 90% of all websites are distributed across shared hosting providers.

Ask a question in you head, who will have the better content and match the searchers intent? Answer all 100%.  Why? Because Google and other leading search engines algorithms are based on matching intent to the best suited query. What blockers would you need to overcome to serve that result? Lets say your hosting a website on Godaddy, Godaddy to turn a profit have to host 1000+ websites per server on a shared IP.

Now think if one of those websites on Godaddy's shared hosting with the same IP was participating in unscrupulous activities such as black hat SEO and phishing. Do you think that Google and other leading search engines would punish the rest of the 999 websites just because of that one jerk? No they wouldn't, why because Google ranks content and pages. Not IPs.

Email may be impacted, to think it would impact on SEO, then no. Caveats could be factored in such as constant downtime, poor server performance, etc.

To wrap this up. No, Shared hosting should not impact on SEO performance.

[fouadChk]

Hi All, 

This is something that has made me head for a long time.

If I share with other 1000 users the same IP address in a shared webhosting, and some of them have bad practices that mark our common IP with a low page rank, I am affected, too, isn't it?

So, is there a solution for this or we only can hope that our services manager discover those user and get rid of them?

DJB's reply should be enough.... still, here is my 2 cents.

In the situation you described, your sent emails will most probably end up in the junk mails (if not blocked), but your website can't be affected SEO wise. Why?.... Because of HTTP 1.1 version (that was enacted back in the end 90s )  which made shared hosting a possibility and even a thriving business.... and hence THE RULE THAT WEBSITES HAVE TO BE TRACKED BY DOMAIN NAMES, NOT BY IPs; The IP being just a pointer of where they are hosted.

Nowadays, it's hard for abusive websites to stay online for very long... A wide infrastructure is deployed by various actors (big fat IT companies, spying gov. agencies, even your own browser (that snitches on websites with harmful contents... )  etc...

The Internet has morphed during this last decade... into a gigantic surveillance (but still) bazzaaar / jungle :-)

[xdude]

Well I do agree with @DJB post. Its not practical punish everyone using an ip address just because of one bad apple. But I do wonder if they make exceptions and slap those manual penalties on IP's or IP Ranges. I had this thought because of my own personal experience. But again it was not on shared hosting but on a vps.

Those who haven't around for a while might had heard about a provider called WeLoveServers. They had a good run offering ultra cheap hosting solutions till their plan started going out of control. I bought a vps for annual fee and at that time I didn't know these guys have started going down the hill. This was about 5 years ago. I moved 5 sites from various places. I was using so many hosting providers those days since I have 100+ micro websites targeting AdSense and Amazon. At second Golden age of Domain names when EMD's running the show. All these 5 sites Decent sites well optimized and ranked well for targeted keywords. After 2 weeks of moving Rankings and traffic started decreasing in all 5 sites. Nothing could boost the rank or traffic. Traffic went down like 90% in all 5 sites. This was went providers problems started surfacing, I my self having hard time getting my ips clears from those email blacklists. So I started reaching out of clients of his provider in various SEO forums like BHW. I found many had same problems. As last option I move those sites to their previous hosting accounts at different providers. This after like 3 months and then SERP started increasing and traffic started coming in again. This is when I started wondering if these guys were given some sort of manual penalty.

[ninjafx]

Hi All, 

This is something that has made me head for a long time.

If I share with other 1000 users the same IP address in a shared webhosting, and some of them have bad practices that mark our common IP with a low page rank, I am affected, too, isn't it?

So, is there a solution for this or we only can hope that our services manager discover those user and get rid of them?

in my opinion it will not be affected because clearly the things that affect SEO have many factors, you are determined by how well you create articles and use keywords that are sought after by visitors, so there is nothing to do with SEO with shared hosting, if your hosting has speed slowly it can also affect your traffic because visitors wait too long for your website to open and eventually visitors search for articles on other websites.

[Drcool]

I would say, test it out.

Create a site and see how it goes.

Create a similar site with paid features and see how it goes. Might not be easy, but actions speak louder than words.