[Rafal]

Hi,

Maybe joomla? I personally do not use, however, friends have a good opinion.

[GigaGreg]

There is no alternative CMS to Wordpress. There is Joomla, Drupal etc, but those differ from Wordpress.

[olidev]

OctoberCMS is definitely one of the best alternative to WordPress. It is as simple as WordPress and you can install extension to extend its functionality just like you do by installing plugins in WordPress.

[fletcherlynd]

Mmm... it depends ;-) IMHO nothing on the market right now comes close to Wordpress as CMS in term of service, security and choice, but you didn't specify your needs. As others have suggested, Joomla and Drupal are surely worth a try if those are the services you are looking for. If instead your question was just regarding a blogger platform to write your journal or to create your own blog, aside from Google's blogger of course, there is Medium, Ghost.org and Steemit (this one blockchain based), have a look, I'm sure you'll find something useful. If you needed something in particular, just follow up in this thread, of course!

[Franz]

After almost 1 year later I'd confirm as a former Drupal-user that " nothing comes close to Wordpress..." as the former post stated it correctly. I became a sworn Wordpress-user in the end.

[Vector]

After almost 1 year later I'd confirm as a former Drupal-user that " nothing comes close to Wordpress..."

I'm a Drupal-user for a few years with core 7.xx. As I know Drupal 7 will be supported until november 2021.
But an upgrade to core 8.xx is senseless, because Drupal 8 end of life is also at november 2021 while Drupal
9 will be released in the next year.
So I'm not really familiar with Drupal 8 and I've heard good things about Wordpress, please can you tell me
the main differences / benefits ?

[Franz]

After almost 1 year later I'd confirm as a former Drupal-user that " nothing comes close to Wordpress..."

I'm a Drupal-user for a few years with core 7.xx. As I know Drupal 7 will be supported until november 2021.
But an upgrade to core 8.xx is senseless, because Drupal 8 end of life is also at november 2021 while Drupal
9 will be released in the next year.
So I'm not really familiar with Drupal 8 and I've heard good things about Wordpress, please can you tell me
the main differences / benefits ?  

I found an article which comes very close to my opinion in terms of this comparison Drupal vs. WordPress. I hope, you don’t mind I send you a link for this purpose: https://themeisle.com/blog/wordpress-vs-...-compared/
I personally stick with WordPress as a small user, like so many mega companies do within an endless list like NBC ,Forbes, UPS, TIME Magazine, New York Times, CNN, Volkswagen, General Motors, etc.
Just give it a try!
It is very easy to use.
Install it from your cPanel using an instant installer like Softaculous, and it will take you a few seconds only.
You can make the backups from there also very easily.

[Vector]

I found an article which comes very close to my opinion in terms of this comparison Drupal vs. WordPress. I hope, you don’t mind I send you a link for this purpose: https://themeisle.com/blog/wordpress-vs-...-compared/I personally stick with WordPress as a small user, like so many mega companies do within an endless list like NBC ,Forbes, UPS, TIME Magazine, New York Times, CNN, Volkswagen, General Motors, etc.

Thank you for the link, Franz. I'll read the comparison on weekend.
Always in my mind are the lot of attempts to attack my Drupalsite with obviously Wordpress security leaks in my log.

[Vector]

After reading your recommendation about Drupal/Wordpress I'll give Wordpress a try.
At first I'll going to install Wordpress on xampp and play around with a few plugins.
After that I have to decide which system works best for me.

[pagstudios]

If its websites you want you could maybe try Concrete5? or maybe BuilderEngine?
Not sure about them though as i never got BuilderEngine to work, And Concrete5 Is too complex.

[daya143]

You can explain, why you don't like Wordpress? Because 31% sites on net was built by Wordpress.

[binil]

For a blog, the best alternative could be https://www.flatpress.org/

I have used it before I learned working with MySQL. It uses flat files for storage, so if you have a big blog there will be loads of files (and folders) which in turn leads to filling up of your inode limit. 

But I have found that it will be useful if MySQL service is slow. However fast wordpress claims to be, for the normal eye, I think flatpress seems to be loading faster.

[macano]

It depends on your profession and development skills and the type of web site requested by the sponsor. 

If you are a graphic designer then wordpress will be fine.

If you are a developer and require a basic site with little visitors traffic, then wordpress or joomla will be fine.

If you are an advanced developer and you have to create a portal with high visitor traffic, then Drupal is the right path.

Wordpress, Joomla and Drupal have different philosophy and different purpose, as technical characteristics that directly influence the performance of a server when the website faces high user traffic.

In performance the worst of all is Wordpress because its architectural design has problems with the execution of multiple threads and even though you are looking for a solution to the performance, you will not find it because it is a problem that its creators caused from the beginning.

To create true intranets or portals, Drupal is the best, also in its latest version improved performance, the architecture is new and according to what is expected to find in a solution a systems engineer responsible for the performance of web servers. In addition Drupal by design supports having multi-tenant sites, which is very useful to create workspaces in an intranet.

[Kreesher]

Dont know

If you don't know or even try to add value to the thread and conversation why even bother to post? 

I recommend you to go the threads you like with content you appreciate and make the effort to read and comment on it to add up to the conversation as well.
You will see, it will pay off in the end so you can have more quality posts to be eligible to get a free host here on gigrocket and also share your experiences and learn with all great people on this community.

[premisoft]

It really depends on what you are looking for. Every CMS that I know of and have used (WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, Expression Engine, Concrete5, DotNetNuke, Alfresco and many of the shopping carts which do have CMS capabilities such as Magento, ZenCart, etc) have more the ability to do far beyond what any one website can ever need. This may involve adding extensions or plugins to achieve these capabilities. However, at the end of the day, what you have is a website with a bloated admin panel that most users will never fully understand. I recently had a client tell me that she had tried WordPress and it was just too complex for her to figure out.. 
My point is simply this. You asked for a good alternative to WordPress. First, that does depend on what you are doing with a website. But, more importantly and more directly. There is none. The best CMS is a custom coded one. Reason being, using myself as an example, when I code a CMS for a client, I make sure that I understand their business today and where they hope to be in their business 10 years from now. That bit of knowledge enables me to provide a solution that enables them to do just what a CMS should do (Manage Content Simply) without feeling the frustration of being lost inside of an admin panel that to many end users looks like a space ship control.

[amiri]

There is nothing else
WordPress has the most number of extensions and is always upgrading.

[nekogato]

craftcms will be one of the choice,
although the market size is still small and not as many plugins as wordpress,
the interface is more modernised and comparably less "hacking" issues.

I haven't go deep into it but i am quite happy playing with the demo,
you can apply one demo site by registering from their website.

[VIOTISI]

I am a fan of flat-file Grav CMS, this is a great choice and it is constantly updated
Moreover, the MIT license and many plug-ins, and those created by users themselves or the administration

[itgareth2020]

There is also a detailed forum comparing WP & others: https://www.gigarocket.net/forum/thread-249.html

This also has some older postings that provide light on The evolution of the common CMS.  I think that unless you are wanting to do wholesale coding and development (or gave a specific website purpose) then WP is more than adequate.

[seijih]

Hi,

Maybe joomla? I personally do not use, however, friends have a good opinion.

I particularly like and use joomla, in my opinion I think it is more organized when creating the layout / template, I usually create the template based on the bootstrap. But in case you have to see what is the best alternative for your project, for me there is no better cms, I think they are all good, what exists is the one that you have more knowledge or adapt better or have some solution easier for your project.

[mungolkan]

I would say Joomla cause I tried it just once a few years back hehe.
But I recommend you to still settle for wordpress, It's the best out there. At least for me. 

[azerbaijantea]

Hi. First question I would ask, why are you looking for alternative CMS? What is specific reason? I use WordPress for very long time and I did not find any major issue with WordPress. Since it offers almost anything you want and better than any other CMS you get easy setup and user-friendly interface. What is most important thing for your website? Design? or Security? I believe all of them present in WP.

[eladkarako]

I have exported the public posts from the DB, created a folder tree that simulates the WordPress commonly used title based one, stored important meta data in a JSON in each folder, the actual post content (it might be HTML) in a README.md in each folder, and based on a HTML templates I fill in time, title and content, I also generate main HTML to hold just the table of indexes (no preview for each post only title), the benefit of the whole think is once you've generated it on your computer and uploaded it to github (static) pages there is no backend. And other SEO related content-based files (such as sitemap). A comment system is based on the github issues and supports emoji and markup.
Even javascript is entirely optional,
the project is viewable from both the github page, due to my choice of storing the content in README.md files, in a basic way,
and with everything you wish (css, js and single mobile viewport friendly html5) on the website.
it does not even uses Jenkins as a post-commit processor.
the control you have of headers is replaced with meta-tags,
the pages are secured with free certificate (github uses let's encrypt). and there are some CORS headers by default.
generating and deploying requires git and nodejs which are available in every OS.

There are no dependencies.

I've put the big files in a single release based on an empty branch so it isn't important how many commits I do in the main branch, and links to there instead.
images and small files are stored in the project.

It wasn't require name server change, just adding a CNAME to the sub domain in the domain supplier control panel.

the github pages are stored on a CDN and very quick to load.

I still have some work, for example fixing the temple, adding more scheme and micro-data.

it was a fun stuff to program, and my 10 years old content is not d3ad..

I intentionally choose as much static content as possible. Javascript isn't rendering anything in the display, is totally optional, and stuff such as side menu are not important (and can be constructed out of pure CSS anyway)

I didn't want to use existing template solutions such as mustache or Jenkins based templates and generators to have better control over the end result and to simplify the dependencies.

https://github.com/eladkarako/icompile/

[eladkarako]

generate static html, store on github pages.

There are comment replacements plugins that uses the 'issues' section as comment system. it loads very fast from cdn an has free let's encrypt certificate built in. and it's free. your content will be available on github at some level but can always fit your own solution (dynamic client side rendering from encrypted storage..)

[GigaGreg]

generate static html, store on github pages.

There are comment replacements plugins that uses the 'issues' section as comment system. it loads very fast from cdn an has free let's encrypt certificate built in. and it's free. your content will be available on github at some level but can always fit your own solution (dynamic client side rendering from encrypted storage..)

That's great, however it depends what the person really needs.

[Sleepwalker]

Ultimately the best answer to this question is: "It depends on what you want to create."

IMHO Wordpress is a blogging platform. If you need a blog it's a really good choice. I avoid it unless I'm making one, the reason for that is simple: I don't want to build a car on a tricycle frame. Sure You can "make it work", but why would you?

For example, this forum is hosted on MyBB framework, made for forums. Could it be done on Wordpress? Yes. Should it be done on Wordpress? I do not believe so.

I don't like frameworks, they make You lazy. It's a mindset of "I'll take what's there" instead of "How do I want it to work?". Leads to stuff like (no offence admins) liking a post on a forum refreshing your page. I'm reading, I like this, I want to continue... nope we will make Your browser make a 100+ requests as a thank you for participating...

[Genesis]

IMHO Wordpress is a blogging platform. If you need a blog it's a really good choice. I avoid it unless I'm making one, the reason for that is simple: I don't want to build a car on a tricycle frame. Sure You can "make it work", but why would you?

I beg to differ here. Wordpress can be used both as a blogging platform and as a multiple page Website. There are a number of large corporations that are using it not for blogging. All you need to do is Google it.

If you know WordPress and its strengths and weaknesses you can create almost anything out of it, including a discussion Forum. I haven't seen a good WordPress discussion Forum plugin yet, but for everything else if you have a large corporation with a fully fledged tech department they could easily create their own WordPress plugins and adapt it for their own use.

[Sleepwalker]

 
I beg to differ here. Wordpress can be used both as a blogging platform and as a multiple page Website. There are a number of large corporations that are using it not for blogging. All you need to do is Google it. 

That's exactly my point. You can make it work. Call me old fashioned but I do think about the overhead that creates. I mean the Wordpress code base is 50MiB and 400000+ lines of code, that's a rather big overhead in my book. And that's just the base, add your own modifications drop in all the plugins You need to make that monster do what You want it to... It's ok if you're a designer with little programming background, it will allow you to push out websites quickly. It's ok if the website needs to be maintained by (pardon my language here) a unskilled personnel. But ultimately you push the security and maintenance of Your website to WP and any plugin vendors you're using. A typical corp exec will take cheep deployment over possible future issues all day every day.

Wordpress is easy. Every time people start talking about how it's universal I love to quote my high-school chemistry teacher: "If something is good for everything then it's sh*t". You can still put in a nail with a shovel, just not the best way of doing it.

[Genesis]

Wordpress is easy. Every time people start talking about how it's universal I love to quote my high-school chemistry teacher: "If something is good for everything then it's sh*t". You can still put in a nail with a shovel, just not the best way of doing it.

So what alternative would you suggest then? Let's say we want a Website that is mobile friendly and responsive, in addition to a home site with many sub sections, also has to include a Forum and a Blog. How would you do this? Consider that we don't have any funds to employ a designer, we have to do it ourselves. We are doing this in our spare time, so don't have unlimited time to do this in. We also can't afford expensive tools, we have to make do with what is available for free. How would you do this?

[Sleepwalker]

It's ok if you're a designer with little programming background, it will allow you to push out websites quickly. It's ok if the website needs to be maintained by (pardon my language here) a unskilled personnel. But ultimately you push the security and maintenance of Your website to WP and any plugin vendors you're using. A typical corp exec will take cheep deployment over possible future issues all day every day.

As I said, it will get the job done. To be fair, if I would get a project like that, specially on a short deadline, hell yeah. Fire and forget. I'd only leave a note to check for updates, cause If you don't... You're running the worlds most popular platform with websites dedicated to listing its security issues.

Personally, I'm a full stack developer. I have my own CMS. So yeah, I would prefer to use something that's tailored to my needs. So, from a framework to full deployment I'd say 40 work hours. Hell make it 80, that's still a single month monday to friday, 4 hours per day.

Confining yourself to a framework will make you a mechanic instead of a engineer. Everyone needs to start somewhere, it's the part where you end in the same place is a problem for me.