Could this be goodbye to IE

helpremember

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Just ran across these articles: http://www.wired.com/2014/12/microsoft-spartan-browser/ & http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-is-building-a-new-browser-as-part-of-its-windows-10-push/.

Has anyone heard anything about the new browser that MS is working on? I would like to say that it can only be better - but with Microsoft one never knows.

It's supposed to be more lightweight(whatever that means these days) and more like Chrome and/or Firefox. Guess that business model is make something like the browsers that are eating up our market share rather than come up with something new. I hope it's not just a new version of IE with a different name.
 

GigaGreg

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Everyone is copying Google Chrome on so many levels, because it is very good web browser.

It will be introduced with the Windows 10 as the default web browser.
 

Genesis

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Well Microsoft definitely has enough funds and geeks to make the best browser yet. Would be interesting to see what they come up with. Can only be good for us, if when they improve, then at least Google will get a bit of a competition.
 

Snowflake

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Hope they do something awesome, because it's going to be hard to beat google chrome or even mozilla. IE is such a slow browser...
 

jaran

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I think the microsoft developers should apply for a job at google rather than making artificial google chrome or firefox browser. Maybe they did unskill to make a new brand for their product.
 

Genesis

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Jaran, I can't see Microsoft copying Google. They'll come up with something of their own and cash in major with their Microsoft office software as well, like work around their own niche.

Internet explorer may be the worst ever, BUT it's on the list of almost every employer in the world. Because most work places are working with Windows software like MS Office and other related products they need Internet Explorer. This year is the first year at my work place we're recommended to use Mozilla Firefox for certain applications. I think Mozilla Firefox has made changes too so it can get into IE territory.
 

jaran

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Genesis said:
Jaran, I can't see Microsoft copying Google. They'll come up with something of their own and cash in major with their Microsoft office software as well, like work around their own niche.

Internet explorer may be the worst ever, BUT it's on the list of almost every employer in the world. Because most work places are working with Windows software like MS Office and other related products they need Internet Explorer. This year is the first year at my work place we're recommended to use Mozilla Firefox for certain applications. I think Mozilla Firefox has made changes too so it can get into IE territory.

Its only sarcasm for they did, @Genesis. I know alot people are still using IE for default browser. But they (microsoft) should not to be worried to build different some new product.
 

Genesis

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jaran said:
Genesis said:
Jaran, I can't see Microsoft copying Google. They'll come up with something of their own and cash in major with their Microsoft office software as well, like work around their own niche.

Internet explorer may be the worst ever, BUT it's on the list of almost every employer in the world. Because most work places are working with Windows software like MS Office and other related products they need Internet Explorer. This year is the first year at my work place we're recommended to use Mozilla Firefox for certain applications. I think Mozilla Firefox has made changes too so it can get into IE territory.

Its only sarcasm for they did, @Genesis. I know alot people are still using IE for default browser. But they (microsoft) should not to be worried to build different some new product.
Totally agreed Jaran. Sorry, I'm the serious one here and I understood you were making light of it. I've just got a serious beef about the world having it wrong allowing all those LARGE corrporations like Microsoft, Google, Adobe, to milk us to death. That is the root of all evil and the divide between those who have and those who don't. I was just thinking earlier today that no doubt Microsoft will find a way to get cash for its new development from a few new license fees it is about to create again.:aggressive:
 

Yozora

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I'm fearing it will only work on Windows 10 though. I would only use it to test sites anyway, but Microsoft's habit of having the latest version of IE only work on the latest versions of Windows is a little annoying to say the least.
 

rrroberts

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Genesis said:
jaran said:
Genesis said:
Jaran, I can't see Microsoft copying Google. They'll come up with something of their own and cash in major with their Microsoft office software as well, like work around their own niche.

Internet explorer may be the worst ever, BUT it's on the list of almost every employer in the world. Because most work places are working with Windows software like MS Office and other related products they need Internet Explorer. This year is the first year at my work place we're recommended to use Mozilla Firefox for certain applications. I think Mozilla Firefox has made changes too so it can get into IE territory.

Its only sarcasm for they did, @Genesis. I know alot people are still using IE for default browser. But they (microsoft) should not to be worried to build different some new product.
Totally agreed Jaran. Sorry, I'm the serious one here and I understood you were making light of it. I've just got a serious beef about the world having it wrong allowing all those LARGE corrporations like Microsoft, Google, Adobe, to milk us to death. That is the root of all evil and the divide between those who have and those who don't. I was just thinking earlier today that no doubt Microsoft will find a way to get cash for its new development from a few new license fees it is about to create again.:aggressive:

Genesis:

I realize I replying to an old post of yours, but just had to say Thanks. Think I may have seen similar sentiments expressed in some of your other posts. I sometimes go on about the concentration of wealth in the world (and particularly in the U.S.), how the U.S. seems to have become a government of the corporation, for the corporation, and by the corporation.

Perhaps I should now be quiet and get off my soapbox. ;-)
 

Genesis

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rrroberts said:
Genesis:

I realize I replying to an old post of yours, but just had to say Thanks. Think I may have seen similar sentiments expressed in some of your other posts. I sometimes go on about the concentration of wealth in the world (and particularly in the U.S.), how the U.S. seems to have become a government of the corporation, for the corporation, and by the corporation.

Perhaps I should now be quiet and get off my soapbox. ;-)
No, by all means rant and rave. Please do! I wish more people will get on their soapboxes about this. For me it's like a Kafka thriller. Daylight robbery of humanity, and not a soul doing anything about it. Now if people have a reason for a war, this is it for me! I'd start with the Banks first though, and will probably find Government just directly behind the Banks. And I guess all of the other mega corporations somehow interlinked with those two. The same group of mega corporate owners ruling the world!
 

rrroberts

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Genesis said:
rrroberts said:
Genesis:

I realize I replying to an old post of yours, but just had to say Thanks. Think I may have seen similar sentiments expressed in some of your other posts. I sometimes go on about the concentration of wealth in the world (and particularly in the U.S.), how the U.S. seems to have become a government of the corporation, for the corporation, and by the corporation.

Perhaps I should now be quiet and get off my soapbox. ;-)
No, by all means rant and rave. Please do! I wish more people will get on their soapboxes about this. For me it's like a Kafka thriller. Daylight robbery of humanity, and not a soul doing anything about it. Now if people have a reason for a war, this is it for me! I'd start with the Banks first though, and will probably find Government just directly behind the Banks. And I guess all of the other mega corporations somehow interlinked with those two. The same group of mega corporate owners ruling the world!

Thanks. I figured I was preaching to the choir.

I mention this to people, have occasionally written letters to U.S. Congresspeople, had an article published in IEEE's IT Professional (Offshoring: Individual Short-Term Gain versus Collective Long-Term Loss?) a few years ago (used Game Theory to try to 'prove' in a near mathematical way that offshoring does not produce the most wealth for everyone), etc. People either just do not want to hear it or simply cannot understand.

What really burns my backside, this country (U.S.A.) put humans on another surface in the Solar System, and today the U.S. has offshored I.S.S crew rotation missions to the Russians.

I may be old school, but true wealth is made by Producing, not Money Manipulation. (To quote Abe Lincoln - "Labor is the superior of capital"). That Producing could be research and development (Thomas Edison, Bell Labs) or manufacturing (Henry Ford had a few good ideas, even though he was a flaming anti-Semite if I remember my history right).

Now to prove my ignorance - please elaborate a little about a Kafka thriller. I have read a lot of Arthur C. Clarke, Issac Asimov, some Bradbury, some Harry Turtledove, Heinlein, a little Orwell, a little Verne, a little H.G.Wells.

Nice talking with you.
 

Genesis

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I haven't read much about Kafka and can't even remember half of what I read, except it was pretty grim and dark. The theme of his writing is mostly man against the universe, unable to make rhyme and reason out of it, and not being able to escape from the dark side of it.

You can check a summary of his "The Trial" book to get the gist of what it is about:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/trial/summary.html
 

rrroberts

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Genesis said:
I haven't read much about Kafka and can't even remember half of what I read, except it was pretty grim and dark. The theme of his writing is mostly man against the universe, unable to make rhyme and reason out of it, and not being able to escape from the dark side of it.

You can check a summary of his "The Trial" book to get the gist of what it is about:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/trial/summary.html

OK, that helps. I can see how that is a metaphor (allegory?) for U.S. economy/job market. Sometimes I think of it as the chocolate ration from Orwell's 1984. Or the Big Lie from Mein Kampf. (Wonder if my name is now highlighted on some watch list for mentioning my reading list?)
 

UniTrans

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No, I don't think IE will end this soon...the existence of Internet Explorer had been long since its commencement! On the contrary, it has its own unique specialty such as the font (.eot) and etc.
 

aditya24

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If mircrosoft is working on a new browser , I think that's a great news . They said that the browser will be lightweight and fast . It will especially help those who are using a low-end pc like me . So waiting for it .
 

miruvhor

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It's about time IE finally just keeled over and died. It's been horrible for over 20 years, and it will continue to be for another 20 unless it's put out to pasture.
 

hitterman

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I would consider this a nice move from Microsoft. IE has lost it's reputation and even if they'll release it with new UI or features people will still prefer Chrome. It's a nice decision to rebrand the browser, change the UI and release it as a completely new project. Lets see what it does!
 

Pauline

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I'm all for IE to be improved as a browser, however it would need a drastic improvement with plenty of incentives for Chrome and Firefox users to change to IE.