Russian Plane Attack

[Genesis]

Think this is equally horrible. Looks like the Russian Plane that had gone down in Sinai, Egypt - from Sharm El Sheikh, last month, had a bomb on board. This has now been confirmed by Russia's Putin. So European countries who were being more security focused for flights from Sharm El Shekh were right.

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I'm wondering how a bomb could possibly have made it on board in this day and age of tight security at the air ports, or maybe the security had not been tight enough?

In a way I also feel sorry for the innocent Syrians that the terrorists will no doubt be hiding behind when Russia and France are sending their attack jets to Syria in retribution. In the meanwhile I'm still confused however how thousands of Syrian refugees had been given such easy access to Europe. When all of this is going on. Definitely not all of this is making sense to me.

 

[xdude]

There are too many side we have feel sorry for. I think this will make a serious dent on Egypt's tourism. There will be less tourists and business going to be in trouble. But again it shows problems with their security. Since 9/11 I think this is the first time passenger plane downed by a planted bomb.

Yea really sad about Syrian people but they are not the only one in trouble. ISIS causing havoc in Iraq too.

 

[hitterman]

ISIS is pretty intelligent and they will DEFINITELY be using Innocent Syrians for their purpose. You see, France and Russia (especially) will not be taking anymore chances for solving issues. The only way they feel through which they can solve is just giving them back the same.

The unfortunate part of this whole scene will be the loss of innocent lives.

 

[xdude]

I don't think Origination like ISIS willing to listen to anyone. They kind of have kill all attitude. I don't think there are any other way to deal with them. Only thing is other countries have waited too long for deal with them that led too many innocents causalities.

 

[Peter]

More people died in the plane attack than in the Paris attacks but still it seems to be much more reactions to the what happened in France (maybe it's different in Russia). Here are some reason why I think this is:

• Mostly Russians died in the plane attack so the rest of the world doesn't care very much.
• It was not known from the start that it was a terrorist act or an accident.
• The plane attack happened much closer to the conflict area.
• The Paris attacks happened "at home" far away from IS.
• There were many injured and people who witnessed the Paris attacks.
• The plane crash had no surviving witnesses at all.

I'm wondering how a bomb could possibly have made it on board in this day and age of tight security at the air ports, or maybe the security had not been tight enough?

IS says they used a bomb made of a soft drink can. Is it really possible that such a small bomb could be enough to destroy the plane instantaneously?

 

[Genesis]

More people died in the plane attack than in the Paris attacks but still it seems to be much more reactions to the what happened in France (maybe it's different in Russia). Here are some reason why I think this is:

• Mostly Russians died in the plane attack so the rest of the world doesn't care very much.
• It was not known from the start that it was a terrorist act or an accident.
• The plane attack happened much closer to the conflict area.
• The Paris attacks happened "at home" far away from IS.
• There were many injured and people who witnessed the Paris attacks.
• The plane crash had no surviving witnesses at all.

That thought went through my mind as well. Maybe all those waving the French flag in sympathy should add the Russian flag as well, but maybe Russia has Western sentiment stacked against it?

Russia has had incidences of terrorism in Russia as well. Those have not been blasted over the news wires like the news in the West does and have gone mostly unreported or put at the bottom of the news lines. So this is again why I hate current news reporting so much. It is biased towards certain populations with negative consequences for accurate and balanced world news reports.

I'm wondering how a bomb could possibly have made it on board in this day and age of tight security at the air ports, or maybe the security had not been tight enough?

IS says they used a bomb made of a soft drink can. Is it really possible that such a small bomb could be enough to destroy the plane instantaneously?

@"Peter" Looks as though it is quite likely - there's been a new news report where an expert says it is quite likely that something as small as a soda can can create bad damage:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/isis-says-soda-bomb-detonated-russian-plane-got-151825789.html
Looks also as though the IS now says that it had a Western target in mind. Creating the impression it regards Russia as a friendly and it happened by accident.

Have to say though I'm not totally into the reports we're getting of IS as to what the real sources are. Are they verifiable sources? If they are verified, as they have been to a certain extent by Russia, then I can buy it. But otherwise I'm cautious and sometimes (maybe most times these days) mistrusting of the accuracy of news reports.

 

[Peter]

It's hard to imagine TV channels, websites, etc. putting a Russian flag behind the logos like they did with the french flag.

A plane contains a lot of fuel so if the bomb is able to ignite the fuel it would lead to a big explosion. Not that it would be necessary. A missing tail or a big hole in the side is probably enough to lead to certain death, but would it be quick enough to prevent the pilots from sending a distress signal?

 

[Genesis]

It's hard to imagine TV channels, websites, etc. putting a Russian flag behind the logos like they did with the french flag.

A plane contains a lot of fuel so if the bomb is able to ignite the fuel it would lead to a big explosion. Not that it would be necessary. A missing tail or a big hole in the side is probably enough to lead to certain death, but would it be quick enough to prevent the pilots from sending a distress signal?

True. I've visited Sharm El Sheikh three times for diving - a few years ago. I remember it was heavily barricaded, as there were army everywhere even then. I wasn't able to get a taxi ride to my hotel in the center of town, so had to walk to the hotel from outside the barricade. Great that I had not been traveling with a lot of luggage. Strange that they should choose Sharm El Sheikh for their terror act. Although maybe they had some sleepers there? Today when I was watching the news for the first time understood the meaning of those who joined for IS training and then returned to their country of origin to be ready for assignment. Must have been the same situation as the terrorist in Tunisia with the beach massacre. They had someone on site in Sharm El Sheikh whom they could call up for duty.