Windows 10

It seems Microsoft it up to something. I am running win7 on my laptop and 1 hd for my home system. Last week, I had a pop up on my laptop from MS. It was about receiving a free copy of windows 10. After I did the registration thing, the icon has stayed in the bottom right area.Not that I am switching to windows10, I just wanted a free copy of it.

But this makes me think there is more to this offer.Why are they offering it for free? What would they do if 80% of all the users who had this noticed signed up to receive a free copy? On top of that, they said it will work with my current hardware I have. Which I find strange. I had to look for drivers to make win7 work on a 8 year old laptop. Was scared to try 8.1 due to hardware issues. Now they are telling me windows 10 will work?

I will have to wait till July 29th when its released.
 

Yozora

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It was announced on tech blogs a while back that people with Windows 7 or 8 will be able to upgrade to 10 for free the first year it's out. I think they want the publicity, and also, Macs started getting updates for free, so maybe they were facing some pressure from the competition.
 

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strokerace said:
It seems Microsoft it up to something. I am running win7 on my laptop and 1 hd for my home system. Last week, I had a pop up on my laptop from MS. It was about receiving a free copy of windows 10. After I did the registration thing, the icon has stayed in the bottom right area.Not that I am switching to windows10, I just wanted a free copy of it.

But this makes me think there is more to this offer.Why are they offering it for free? What would they do if 80% of all the users who had this noticed signed up to receive a free copy? On top of that, they said it will work with my current hardware I have. Which I find strange. I had to look for drivers to make win7 work on a 8 year old laptop. Was scared to try 8.1 due to hardware issues. Now they are telling me windows 10 will work?

I will have to wait till July 29th when its released.
Microsoft loaded some Windows 10 stuff on everyone's computers as "updates" six weeks or so ago. Quite a number of people were upset about it, and found ways to permanently get rid of the updates. There's a special technique to it, as just deleting it is not enough, because then Microsoft will load it again next time round. I don't find those downloads a problem and am keeping mine just in case I want to upgrade to Windows 10 in a number of months time. I however first want to see Microsoft get rid of the first round of bugs that are sure to be around. I'd like some solid feedback first before I'll use the upgrade. And may not upgrade if there is no real need to so. I'm quite OK with Windows 7 for now.

I'm almost certain Microsoft anticipates people who want to download the operating software versus installing it. May not be worth it the way they set up installation. Microsoft operating software seems to be completely integrated at all levels these days with probably loads of spyware that comes with Windows 7 and Windows 8 to "authenticate" it. Can't help but wonder whether that spyware makes us vulnerable for hacking at the same time as well. With my last Malware Bytes scan, learned that pup.vulnerable.dellsystemdetect, which was a system for Dell technicians to read a dell system of a customer with problems. This system created a vulnerability for hacking picked up by Malware Bytes. Dell has a page with steps how to delete that feature and malwarebytes helps to delete it during a scan, which is what I did. While I was doing it could not help but wonder about similar stuff of Microsoft's that is doing the exact same thing with their Operating Software.

The little bit I read up on it Microsoft is treating Windows 10 like an upgrade for users with Windows 7 and 8. The "upgrade" will be free from 29 July 2015 to 29 July 2016 and paid afterwards. Where it gets tricky is that there are only two "free" upgrades - home version and professional version. Home version upgrades to home version, and all the fancy Windows 7 and 8 professional and ultimate versions only get a professional upgrade. If one wants to upgrade from home to professional there's a 99USD charge.
 
I know way back in the day when I was on some of the shady sites in the underworld. I was friends with the team that discovered the back door in XP when it first came out. Not long after that came SP1. Then a few years later someone cracked open all windows and released the source code to the world. It showed sloppy codemenship. Some of use also found copies of their codename Long Horn project. Which if I am not mistaken is or was Vista. As you can tell, they are pumping out new O/S's like crazy now. To try and keep up with the security breaches that come out almost daily. They are also losing users to Linux and to mobile devices now. Majority of the people are using their cell phones and tables for surfing the net now so sales are down. Look at the preview of 10, its set up something like how your apps are on mobile devices.
 

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strokerace said:
Look at the preview of 10, its set up something like how your apps are on mobile devices.
Sounds almost like the Chrome browser preview last night before I loaded it. You're right however. People are moving more to Linux. May be a bridge somewhere between Windows and Linux.
 
Genesis said:
strokerace said:
Look at the preview of 10, its set up something like how your apps are on mobile devices.
Sounds almost like the Chrome browser preview last night before I loaded it. You're right however. People are moving more to Linux. May be a bridge somewhere between Windows and Linux.

Over the years, I have notice that Linux is starting to look and feel more like Windows. Mac is starting to look like windows and Windows is trying to be like Mac. Chrome is starting to over take Firefox. IE is going the way of the duh duh bird. Soon we will all have some sort of computers installed in our heads and use thought to control them
 

Genesis

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strokerace said:
Soon we will all have some sort of computers installed in our heads and use thought to control them
Great dream. I'd love to be in that position, particularly since more and more when I'm on the Internet I feel as though I have less and less control. All your big names like Google, Microsoft, Adobe, etc. etc. are making the rules up as they go. Using "safety and security" as their pretext, but for every "safety and security" move there is something we have to give away in terms of our freedom for surfing on the Internet.
 

aya

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Prof R A Wilson predicted one day it's our minds that will be uploaded to a server, he said then we will be immortal.
 

GigaGreg

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The only one bad thing about MS is that they got partnershio with King, Candy crush saga etc, and those games will be automatically installed on the computer whether we want them or not.

When I have installed windows insider windows 10, I made a backup just in case of loosing data, but nothing got lost as suprise to me. You don't have to worry about drivers etc, because your graphic card will automatically prompt you to update for windows 10 compatibility which is amazing.
 

ssamjh

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I read up on this about a week ago.

Basically what happens is, you register and then when windows 10 is released it will begin to upgrade your computer. So the icon will stay there until the upgrade to 10 is complete.

So far I really like what they are doing with Windows 10. From the tech preview, it seems flawless.

It seems they're doing whatever they can to recover from the much hated Windows 8/8.1.

Another interesting thing is that Windows 10 will be free for people who obtained Windows 7/8/8.1 illegally.
 
ssamjh said:
I read up on this about a week ago.

Basically what happens is, you register and then when windows 10 is released it will begin to upgrade your computer. So the icon will stay there until the upgrade to 10 is complete.

So far I really like what they are doing with Windows 10. From the tech preview, it seems flawless.

It seems they're doing whatever they can to recover from the much hated Windows 8/8.1.

Another interesting thing is that Windows 10 will be free for people who obtained Windows 7/8/8.1 illegally.

A security person, I see it filled with holes. Its been like that since XP. I don't trust M$ since they teamed up with the NSA.

I know its a terrible evil that I have to run windows 7 right now. I have used a friends laptop with windows 8.1 on it and I don't know anyone in their right mind can use it. I guess if you surf the web and nothing else, then its ok. But I like control over my computer and I shut down things that don't need to be running and I close the security issues that are in there by design. Also, I know that since windows 7, they have been trying to stop users from using pirated software, downloading torrents, copying cds/dvd etc. I think that is why they are giving away windows 10. It will lock all those that do that stuff out of there computers and send their info to the DMCA people.
 

Genesis

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strokerace said:
I think that is why they are giving away windows 10. It will lock all those that do that stuff out of there computers and send their info to the DMCA people.
I felt it almost the equivalent of giving amnesty to illegal OS people, in order to get MS tentacles into them and control them, just the way you said they would. I think illegal users may find themselves unable to get Windows 10 illegally as it is set up so tight and so integrated, probably better to go for it now while there is still a "Window of opportunity" so to speak. Only other alternative would be to buy Windows OS.
 

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The final version of Win10 got leaked to the internet btw. Apparently for people who pirated the OS will be lack of support and similar stuff which is normal to MS, but I dubt it, who ever pirates, will be able to protect themselves from threats such as malware, viruses etc.
 

Genesis

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I'm almost certain Microsoft will be more savvy with even the pirated versions that they can check whether it is pirated or not. But yes, for someone who is really savvy with pirating OS, anything is possible. There is always a way.
 
iGdesigner said:
The final version of Win10 got leaked to the internet btw. Apparently for people who pirated the OS will be lack of support and similar stuff which is normal to MS, but I dubt it, who ever pirates, will be able to protect themselves from threats such as malware, viruses etc.

I have been using pirated windows since I learnt how to get it back in 2000. First it was just a simple serial number, then they started to black list those numbers. The people found ways around that and made programs to make their copy genuine so they could get updates to patch the sloppy code. Even for those who didn't go that route, there were sites that had uploaded new copies with the updates or made some updates available online. Its not that I am worried about.

What they have talked about awhile back, was stopping people from downloading other software that have keygens, movies and music. I think that is what they are going to hit this time. What better way then to give everyone a free copy. Already there are back doors to the NSA and other agencies to monitor your internet usage. Even if you use a VPN. No, I am not paranoid over this. I just find it funny. I am a no body and I am sure that the big hacker groups already preparing for the release. Now that you say that it was already leaked. Or was the leaked version just a ploy to see who the groups are? Piracy and Hacking is the biggest industry on the net right. Draining billions and billions of dollars off of everyone.

I can go up to 10, or I can go back to the beginning or windows. I can also do most of my activities from linux.

There are just some things that make you go Hmmmm, what are they trying to do.
 

Genesis

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strokerace said:
what are they trying to do.
Get power and control so they can have more ownership of as much as they can, particularly licensing, get more money, and increase the value of their shares.
 
slibinas said:
i think win10 cant work in my pc, sad :/

As I have stated, I have an 7-8 your old laptop running windows 7 on it. According to windows, windows 10 will work on it with its current hardware and drivers. I am sure they have some way of checking to make sure the computer is compatible.